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Hello to all at The Hydra.

This is my 56 gallon column hitech birthday present. It will be 2 years old next month. I've been told October's birthday present is going to be something special. I have to admit I cheated and looked at browser history. If thats what I'm getting she didn't lie.

This is my first and only hitech setup everything previous was salt or low tech. One day I was researching why my Rotala Wallichi was losing all its needles after months of good growth. I stumbled upon another forum with a vast amount of information. I was instantly mesmerized. I scoured as much information as possible.

After seeing all the gorgeous hitech tanks, I decided I was going to do one. A year later I received my birthday present. I month early since it was on sale.

Plants

Frogbit
Variegated macrandra
Hygrophila Pinnatifida
Echinodorus sp Aflame Wild Blood
Red Devil Echinodorus
Staurogyne sp low grow
Trithuria sp. Erio blood vomit
Helanthium tenellum
Fissidens fontanus
Ludwigia atlantis
Nl moss
Rotala indica
Alternanthera rieneckii mini
Rotala mini type 2
Staurogyne repens
Micrantherum umbrosum "monte carlo"
Red moss (Caloglossa cf. beccarii)
Ludwigia Senegalensis
Purple-fringed Riccia- Ricciocarpos natans

Mini Pellia
Hydrocotyle sibthorpioides
Ludwigia sphaerocarpa
Nyphaea zenkeri (green)
Rotala sp. Sunset
Rotala ramosior Florida
Nyphaea micranthra
Myriophyllum red stem

Fish
otos
kulha loaches
Panda garra
c.habrosus
Skiffia lermae
German blue ram

Inverts These are always culls to feed my Badis Badis. They eat both.

Red ramshorn Red fire shrimp

I'm having issues retrieving my files so ill update with older pics when I've solved. Here is the most current.

Before rescape. I wanted to bring the Aflame back out. Plus i didn't like how much space the driftwood was taking up.

IMAGE(http://i1366.photobucket.com/albums/r768/CreepyChaoslord/Fts/IMAG0526_BURST016-1_zps5ccc1992.jpg)

IMAGE(http://i1366.photobucket.com/albums/r768/CreepyChaoslord/Fts/IMAG0650_BURST017-1-1_zpsb81cfb3c.jpg)

After rescape. This is how i originally had the driftwood its just angled a little more for par issues.

IMAGE(http://i1366.photobucket.com/albums/r768/CreepyChaoslord/Fts/IMAG0657_BURST020-1_zps6a49362a.jpg)

***I'll edit this post to keep a up to date plant and fish list.***

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you've got such rich colours in your tank! It's a really beautiful set up. There's so much to look at. How is your flamingo doing? :)

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Thanks Jinx.

I copied pasted my plant and fish list. My editing skills are something to be desired. In my defense i was at the end of my double when i edited my list. I would not of left the Flamingo on my list.

I bought two cups of the Flamingo. I sold one cup to a person that I thought had the best chance of success. The plants were in sorry shape when they were received. In the sellers defense he told me the shape they were in and i was under no obligation to buy them.

I split my portion into 16 pieces. Out of the 16, 12 started producing leaves. All of a sudden everything in my tank started showing extreme signs of melting and twisted new growth. I've never had this kind of an issue before. It came to a point were i was doing 90% water changes. Rodi remineralized to preferred stats.

Every test that i ran, except one, was what i expected them to be at. The one test was TDS. It kept skyrocketing. My TDS standards were a constant 140-220. My TDS would keep climbing i would do a water change and within two days my TDS was testing at 600+.

The mistake i believed i made was letting the leaves melt into the water column and not doing a water change right after melt. Usually when a leaf falls off or starts melting you can just pull it out. The Flamingo leaves literally disintegrated into the water column over night. I believe my eco complete absorbed whatever the Flamingo released into the water column and was slowing releasing it back. Which i was able to measure by Tds. It took over a month for my TDS to stabilize in the 300 range.

When it was all said an done i had 3 plants left that was still alive. I than had the bright idea to rescape. One of the things i wanted to do was move my Aflame. I slowly dragged my Aflame thru the substrate. It worked how every i underestimated how massive the Aflame's root system is. When i was moving the Aflame i paid attention to were i was moving it to and not what was going on in front of it. When i was done i noticed the pit were the Aflame was and two of the Flamingo's were floating. The one that didn't get ejected moved over 6 inches.
I moved the two that were floating into my shrimp tank. I left the one were it moved to. I thought all three died off. I am getting new growth from one in my shrimp tank. I have two new leaves about a quarter of an inch. The new growth is not pink anymore it is solid green with white veins.

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Good grief!! Doesn't sound like a very hearty crypt by any means!! The strains available here in The States really need to be pampered and coddled until they can send out a few dozen daughter generations that should increasingly be more adaptable to submersed life in the tank. But yikes!!

I have two coming from Hung this week. I hope that they do well in my system.

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Mine was a tissue culture. I believe the couple he sold you have already been converted to a submerged form. If anyone can get daughters its diffenetly you. I do hope you pay to overnight them. Just moving from tank to tank caused a complete melt on my end. I do have one coming back though.

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I was able to obtain some of my files finally. Heres is the first pic. My son was very helpful in getting started so i thought he deserved a spot.

IMAGE(http://i1366.photobucket.com/albums/r768/CreepyChaoslord/Fts/2011-09-04174506_zps609ffcea.jpg)

This is the first scape that I was happy with.

IMAGE(http://i1366.photobucket.com/albums/r768/CreepyChaoslord/Fts/2012-03-05072213_zps910d1330.jpg)

This was sold to me as Giant parva. After about 6 months it developed a spathe. I dont have this plant anymore. I bought an American flag fish. It kept pulling them up.
Can anyone give me a positive id ?

IMAGE(http://i1366.photobucket.com/albums/r768/CreepyChaoslord/2012-05-08114839_zpsc2da2ba2.jpg)

After the spathe melted, it developed a seed. I never took a pic of the seed itself but you should be able to see it in this pic.

IMAGE(http://i1366.photobucket.com/albums/r768/CreepyChaoslord/2012-05-09114406_zps858f1766.jpg)

More pics to follow.

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Lovely tank scape. Your son is adorable!

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The spathe looks like a C. parva to me. How're the other crypts doing?

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@ Jinx Thanks. It took me about four months to reach that point.

@ Phil Thanks Phil ive been looking for that specific species in my pic. The species of parva i have now hugs the substrate. Everything is growing great right now. I am having an issue with the Florida sunsets shadowing my Maradong. I've been thinking of thinning them out. Its hard to find the time.

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In my experience C. parva starts out tall then when it adapts and starts growing submersed leaves it grows a lot shorter, just like yours.

Would you explain the whole "Flamingo" thing to me? It seems to me that it's just a more red version of "Florida Sunset".

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http://www.aquabotanic.com/?tag=cryptocoryne-flamingo. Here is an article written by Robert Hudson on the Cryptocoryne Flamingo.

http://www.aquabotanic.com/?p=1657 another article by Robert Hudson on Cryptocoryne Florida sunset.

I think the links will explain it better than i could.

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